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Today's Topics:
1. Fwd: Debian packages for LedgerSMB (Robert J. Clay)
2. Re: Are there any subscribers using LedgerSMB versions older
than 1.4? (Erik Huelsmann)
3. Exchange rate (Erik Huelsmann)
4. Re: Are there any subscribers using LedgerSMB versions older
than 1.4? (Erik Huelsmann)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:07:59 -0500
Subject: [ledgersmb-users] Fwd: Debian packages for LedgerSMB
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Forgot to cc this to the mailing list...
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Date: Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ledgersmb-users] Debian packages for LedgerSMB
Hi Nicolas!
On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:07 AM Nicolas Couchoud
>
> Hi,
>
> As far as I have understood, there are two sorts of Debian packages for
> LedgerSMB :
> * Debian regular repositories just contain packages called « ledgersmb » ;
Yes, that's the official Debian package for the LedgerSMB
application (which also migrates over to the developmental version of
Ubuntu). The most recent is the one for the most recently released
version of LedgerSMB, 1.6.9. (Released just a few days ago.)
> * your repository apt.ledgersmb.org contains packages with names like
> « ledgersmb-1.5 » and « ledgersmb-1.5-apache ».
Yes, the ledgersmb-1.5 packages are for the 1.5.x versions of
LedgerSMB, with the latest being v1.5.24 (just released a few days
ago). The ones like ledgersmb-1.5-apache are for web proxies if one
wants to use one. The 1.5.x versions will be supported by the project
until December of this year (2019) when it will see its End Of Life
for community support..
There are also the ledgersmb-1.6 packages, which are for the 1.6.x
versions of the LedgerSMB application (the current stable). It also
has the associated packages for a web proxy selection.
> So, I feel a bit lost... Is there one preferred sort of package ? Are
> some of these obsolete ?
The ledgersmb-1.5 packages aren't "obsolete" but they are for the
old-stable version of LedgerSMB (1.5.x), which as noted will see End
of Life in December 2019. (Whereas the 1.6.x versions are good for
LedgerSMB Community Support until December of 2021.) Their advantage
is that due to the availability of dependencies, the ledgersmb-1.5
packages can be backported to older versions of Debian (or Ubuntu)
than the ledgersmb-1.6 packages currently can be.
The primary difference between the 'ledgersmb' package and the
'ledgersmb-1.x' packages is that due to Debian Policy (regarding
embedded libraries), the ledgersmb packages uses the system installed
packages for the Dojo libraries while the ledgersmb-1.x packages use
the embedded versions of the Dojo libraries that are released with
each version of the LedgerSMB application.
--
Robert James Clay
--
Robert J. Clay
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:30:59 +0100
Subject: Re: [ledgersmb-users] Are there any subscribers using
LedgerSMB versions older than 1.4?
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Hi Peeter,
still on 1.2.26 as it is the last version where I can freely change all
> existing invoices. As mistakes happen or clients want some other
> description etc changes on them, this is really important to us.
>
Yes, you brought up that point before, I remember. Actually, you were not
the only one to bring it up -- I've got a few other contacts that would
really like this functionality to be re-introduced again. Some time back, I
went over the possibilities to do so with Chris and we found a way to
extend LedgerSMB 1.3+ to support both your use-case and still maintain
Chris's position about not deleting data (maintaining a full audit trail).
Unfortunately, the pipeline for 1.7 is very full at the moment and I'm not
likely to be able to address this idea and build it into 1.7 (as that
release is planned for this summer).
But as latest version of Debian where 1.2.26 works is Debian 8 and it's end
> of life is June 30th 2020 we are planning to move away from LedgerSMB to
> some other software. Already migrating some companies starting 2019 and
> rest is planned starting from 2020.
>
It's not that I'd like to encourage you to keep working on 1.2, but if you
want to keep working on 1.2, I think that version can be made to work on
Debian 9+ quite easily.
> If there has been any changes in allowing to change existing invoices
> (both parts and services), then it would be good to know before we have
> left completely.
>
Yes, there has been a change in allowing existing invoices to be changed in
the sense that the project now has a way to maintain full audit trail,
working COGS *and* allow the changed invoices. Which means we're no longer
against allowing it. The actual code to allow it though is yet to be
written.
Thanks for taking the time to respond!
Regards,
Erik.
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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:37:12 +0100
Subject: [ledgersmb-users] Exchange rate
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Hi Ryle,
Your mails are appearing in the mailing list archive (..) but not in my
inbox, so I'm copying the content of your mail here:
> How can we set the exchange rates if the currency is different form our
country default currency,
In order to be able to set exchange rates, you need to indicate that you
want to use multiple currencies. You can do that in the "System >
Defaults"-menu. On the resulting page, there's a "Currency" input box. If
you want to use more than one currency, e.g. USD (as the regular currency
(also known as "functional currency")) and EUR as the foreign currency, you
enter into the currency box (without the quotes): "USD:EUR" (the ":" is the
important separator).
When you have that, you can choose the currency when creating an order or
invoice. When you choose "EUR" and click "Update", an input box will appear
for the exchange rate.
> Let's say the purchase order is to be sent to another country.
Does the above help your case?
Regards,
--
Bye,
Erik.
Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.
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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:44:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [ledgersmb-users] Are there any subscribers using
LedgerSMB versions older than 1.4?
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Hi Ryle,
Your mails aren't appearing in my inbox, so I'm pasting your response below:
>Hi, thank you for your question.
> On our case, we are still using the 1.3.46 release since the only
available pdf manual is only for 1.3 version.
Your point about the manual is fair. However, 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 are actually
not too different from 1.3. There are differences, especially with respect
to how the UI is built and there are some more functions in later releases,
but there really shouldn't be anything removed.
> Can we now migrate to higher versions of LSMB without any issues and
retaining the data of the 1.3 setup?
Yes, you can migrate to higher versions than 1.3 and retain your data. If
you're interested in how to do that, I'll create a separate write-up about
it. As to whether the migration itself or the use of the new version is
completely without issues, I'm not sure. Especially the step to migrate
from one minor version to another (1.4->1.5->1.6) has been improving with
each release. The reason I was asking the question - and thanks for your
answer - is because I wanted to know if there are users who are in need of
migration from 1.2/1.3->1.6+. And you confirm that there are.
Regards,
Erik.
> Hi all,
>
> Migrations have become considerably more controlled since the 1.5 release,
> which introduces a smooth migration from 1.4.
>
> As such migration paths do not exist for 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3, I'm eager to
> learn if there are any users out there of these old versions, and, if
> you're not migratiing, what's keeping you from doing so.
>
> If you can't publicly respond to this inquiry, please mail me privately so
> I can treat your information confidentially.
>
> Thanks for your responses,
>
> --
> Bye,
>
> Erik.
>
> Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.
>
--
Bye,
Erik.
Robust and Flexible. No vendor lock-in.
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